Freud and Jung. A chart comparison.

Today we are looking at a comparison between the chart of Carl Jung and that of Sigmund Freud.  I felt compelled to look further into their similarities and differences when I noticed that they both had 7th house Suns.  The 7th house stands for “the other”, and it often gets it’s reputation on the “marriage house”.  But “the other” is also so entirely bound up in our projections, which both of these men spent much of their lives studying.  Does having a seventh house Sun put you in an easier position to accept this concept of projection because you are less bound up in your own identity (1st house)?  Perhaps there is more wiggle room in the seventh, and you can see through the facade of your own illusions when it comes to how you perceive another person.

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Jung’s Leo Sun is exactly conjunct the descendant. It may look like it’s in the 6th but it is in the 7th, and how.
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Freud’s Taurus Sun is in the 7th, also conjunct the descendant (heightening the 7th house themes)

It stands to reason that such a comfortability in this could bring about much curiosity.  Curiosity would be no stranger to Freud’s Gemini Moon, and again no stranger to Jung’s third house Moon (the house naturally associated with Gemini).  These men have questions that seek answers.

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Freud was very focused on sex, seeing it as the ultimate reason why anybody does anything.  He has Scorpio rising (the sign most associated with sex) and an eight house Moon (the house most associated with sex, and death, and psychotherapy!).  His Moon is in Gemini, so he seeks a lot of stimulus, and wants facts.  His Taurus energy will stand behind these facts like a Sumo wrestler.  Just look at the expression on his face!

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Every picture I came across of Freud had a similar expression to this one. His words (Gemini) are firm (Taurus).

Jung saw the libido as not just a means for sexual gratification (as Freud saw it) but rather as a well of psychic energy that could be used in a variety of ways, including the creative drive.  Jung’s Mercury (mind) is in inward Cancer and conjunct Venus (creativity).  This is a quieter mind, a mind that is naturally more in touch with the feminine (Venus) and therefore more attuned to mystery and things hidden (feminine).  His Leo energy vitalizes this standpoint, blazing a well lit path into the unknown.  This mission seems to fill him with visible delight.  His ultimate emotional drive is a sense of solid ground (Taurus) in matters of the mind (third house).

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Nearly every picture of Jung features this held back grin. His work infusing his Leo spirit to bask in his own radiance.

In the natal chart, the libido is represented by the planet Mars.  Both of these men have Mars in the eleventh house, which is a Succedent (security seeking) house that is naturally associated with the sign Aquarius (the most intellectual of the air signs).  Thus, the eleventh house represents where we seek intellectual security.  For both of these men, the libido is very involved in their intellectual pursuits.

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Gigitty- let’s talk libido…

Jung has his Mars in far reaching ever-philosophizing Sagittarius.  It is naturally associated with his Jupiter which is in Libra (balance and beauty-seeking) and in the 8th house (in places hidden, the occult).  Sagittarius is a mutable sign, and it will seek to change and reinvent itself again and again.  Jung famously studied alchemy, and astrology to a lesser extent, incorporating the metaphors of these occult practices into his therapeutic work.   He also commonly had patients make their own personal mandalas, a practice used by many ancient cultures including Buddhism, Hinduism and Native American, to better understand their emotional disorders and put them on a path towards inner wholeness.

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A mandala painting by Jung. He saw mandalas as a means to meditate back to your natural center, where the Self can be found. The Self is our true nature, beyond what is conscious in our egos.

 Freud’s libido is another story.  It is in the sign of balance-seeking Libra, which is associated with the planet Venus.  Here is where it gets interesting.  Freud has QUITE a lot of Venusian themes in his chart.  He has all that Taurus (ruled by Venus) in the 7th house (also associated with Venus) and now we see that he has a Libra Mars.  Taurus is related to Venus in a visceral, carnal way, as in “this cake tastes good” or “nice legs!”.  Libra is related to Venus in a more social and graceful way, as in “shall we have some cake?” or “thank you for that compliment”.   Ok, so what we want to know now is WHO is Freud’s Venus???

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Freud is famous for introducing the Oedipus complex, where a patient has sexual desire for the parent of the opposite sex.  His Venus is conjunct the North Node and in the service-oriented 6th house.  The North Node is connected to our dharma, the things that we do in life that feel like we are traveling on our rightful higher path.  However, the Nodes are ALSO highly connected to the concept of MOTHER.  Freud’s Venus (projections of women) is naturally bound up in the concept of mother!  The Oedipus complex likely has an exceptional resonance with this man.  His Venus is in Aries, which ties it right back to his libido (Mars)!

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Jung has Aquarius rising, which is associated with strong intellect as well as breaking rules.  His dabbling with esoteric teachings made him somewhat of an outcast (Aquarius) amongst his peers.  He has Saturn (the planet of inner authority) in the first house (identity) in Aquarius.  His intellectual inner authority is blown up with empowerment as it is squared with Pluto.  It is also very connected to the 12th house (because Capricorn is on it’s cusp), which is the house of mystical realms.  The collective unconscious, a concept introduced by Jung, represents a vast well of psychic material that connects us to all of humanity.  The 12th house is that very deep oceanic territory of the collective unconscious.

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The deeper we get the less we know. That is the feeling of the 12th house. It is a place of surrendering to the ever enduring mysteries of life.

Hope this was a fun little jaunt into the behind the scenes of some very mysterious men!  ‘Til next time!

Happy Birthday Johnny Cash!

To say he is an enigma is quite the understatement when it comes to Johnny Cash.  “The Man in Black” without a doubt lives up to his mysterious nickname.  His words come out straight, with no extraneous descriptive poetics, yet they hit us deep within our soul by way of emotional accuracy.  This man knows pain and suffering, and he strides through that dark territory like the outlaw that he is.

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On to his chart!

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The fist theme that jumps off the page here (always a good place to start) is the EXTREME Neptune/ Pisces energy.  He has his Sun (life energy) conjunct his Mercury (speech and mind) and Mars not far behind (what makes him tick) ALL in sensitive Pisces and all in Pisces’ natural house, the 12th.  The 12th house brings Pisces types of issues into your world- issues like times when you feel vulnerable, overwhelmed, or weak.

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The 12th house can be your own personal prison. A place where you are stuck until you learn that you hold the key to your freedom. Here stands Johnny outside of San Quentin prison, one of the two prisons he famously performed in.

On the higher end this could be times/places that bring feelings of rapture or interconnectedness with all of life.  But suffering is no stranger to the 12th house, and Pisces energy feels everything more sensitively.  Let’s add the very important detail that Neptune itself is EXACTLY opposite his Sun/Mercury- adding one more POWERFUL thrust of vulnerability to this equation.  It’s really unbelievable this set up.  This man is either walking with God or walking with his demons.

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Here at Folsom Prison the climate is one more of rapture than isolation. He’s the man for the job.
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Pisces seeks the rapture. Cash sought this through drug and alcohol addiction as well as religious experiences. Here he is with his good friend the Reverend Billy Graham. He valued this friendship so much that his house in Jamaica featured a “Billy Graham room” with a bed only for Billy.

Instead of cowering in a corner in the face of pain and suffering, Cash puts on a headlamp and marches straight in to the dark trenches of sorrow in search of something true.  This is the spirit of an 8th house Scorpio Moon.  Scorpio is emotional energy that goes deep and craves REALNESS.  The 8th house is the place in life where those things happen, like intimate relationships or offering values (like the messages in his songs) that can be truly SHARED by others.

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Cash faces emotional trouble dead on and transforms (Scorpio) pain into wisdom.
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Another Uranus/Venus Aries example is his spontaneous (Uranus) proposal (Venus) to June Carter in 1968. She tried to deflect his question, as he was a bit high at the time, but he made sure he got an answer (Aries). His unrequited love for June helped him “walk the line”, instead of floating off into obscurity. (Aries verse Pisces).

But there’s more to Cash’s approach.  He’s an outlaw.  Which brings us to his guns-blazing Venus Uranus conjunction.  Venus (personal charm) is fused with Uranus (the rule breaker/ outlaw!) and they are in fiery courageous Aries in the first house (personal style/identity).  This piece of dynamite is squared by Pluto, which blows it up even bigger with empowerment from the 5th house (the house of self expression).

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Cash the outlaw. This picture is worth a thousand words to describe Uranus/Venus in Aries square Pluto.

His Jupiter is in Leo, bringing a restoration of faith through play and spontaneous fun (Leo).  Humor wedges it’s way into the tumultuous terrain of emotional bullets with songs like “A Boy Named Sue”.

So Happy Birthday to The Man in Black!  Hello, he’s Johnny Cash!  Thank you a million times over you beautiful man!

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Cash in his element (Water) outside his home in Hendersonville, Tennessee.

Pharrell Williams and the beauty of Neptune

I remember when I first saw Pharrell Williams on last year’s Grammy’s and thinking three things:  What’s with the hat?  Who is this guy winning ALL of the awards?  Why is he being followed around by spacemen?

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Neptunian illusion and mystery

Flash forward a couple of months and my sister and I are mesmerized by the 24hour music video of “Happy” streaming online.  All different kinds of everyday people dancing in their own interpretative style on the streets of L.A- one, sometimes two or three at a time.  The song/dance keeps coming to an end and unbelievably I would continually feel powerless to turn it off as the music started up again and a fresh face appeared.  The next thing I knew we had been watching for 4 hours straight- one song over and over.

Here come bad news talking this and that —   Give me all you got and don’t hold back —-   I should probably warn you I’ll be just fine —  No offense to you, don’t waste your time —-  Here’s why —-  Because I’m happy….”

By the time the choir-like back up voices come in “Happyyy…” I am just totally aboard.  The melody is so beautiful- the message so pure- I am hook, line and sinkered.  It’s this all powerful pull to be a part of this big beautiful thing– and knowing on the deepest level that I already AM a part of it.  You might ask when am I gonna get to the astrology of all this and the answer is right now with one word:  Neptune.

Neptune is love that is all embracing– all inclusive–  all forgiving.  It is divine love as opposed to Venus which is personal love.  Neptune celebrates the flawless beauty of us all.  Pisces is the sign that is connected to Neptune.  Michelangelo is a double Pisces (Sun, Moon) with Mars there too (energizing it even more) and all of this opposite Pluto (empowering it exponentially).  Look to the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel to get a feel for this type of divine love.

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Pharrell is not a Pisces, but he has Mercury in Pisces (style of communicating) and his Neptune is very strongly placed- which I will get to.  He is an Aries.  A pioneer, a risk taker.  His Sun is conjunct Venus merging creativity (Venus) with his true essence (Sun).  His Moon is in earthy, steadfast Taurus and in the 5th house (performing).  He needs to create structures (Taurus)- this need is intensified opposite Uranus.  And structures he did create.  He and his partner Chad Hugo created the very successful record duo, named of all things, THE NEPTUNES!

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Pharrell’s’ chart

So let’s get back to Neptune.  Wherever Neptune is found in the chart there is a potential for vulnerability on one side of the spectrum and a potential for a deep connection to the divine on the other.  Pharrell’s Neptune is in the 12th, which is the house that is associated with Neptune.  The 12th is mysterious, as is Neptune.  It is commonly associated with trouble but that is not very accurate, and also kind of a downer.  I see planets in the 12th as being connected to seeking an IDEAL, often on a subconscious level.  With Neptune in the 12th we are looking at an ideal in the realm of ideals.  Divine love in the realm of the ultimate.  There is a thirst for heaven on earth.

I remember watching him on Oprah cry tears of joy as they watched homemade videos from around the world of people dancing to “Happy”.  He created a song that unified people from all walks of life in a very powerful way.  Living up to something within him so deep, and so hard to reach.  Masterful work from an artist with his heart in the right place.

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Happy in Bucharest
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Happy senior in Canada
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Happy in L.A (24 hour video)
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Happy in L.A (24 hour video)